The Battle for Kanye West Is Happening in Real Time

Kanye West in his reflective interview with Charlamagne Tha God, left, and in his more inflammatory appearance on “TMZ.”

Speaking truth to power has long been central to how Kanye West navigates his art and his business. He lambastes the executives who don’t grant him full creative and financial freedom. He calls into question the empathy of a president on live television. He lays bare his emotions in ways that disrupt tidy narratives about celebrity comity. He is a lit match in search of a fuse, setting fires that people (largely) cheer for.

But in the last couple of weeks, as Mr. West has begun his return to public life after a quiet year, the roles have switched: He is the power, and speaking truth to Kanye West has become the norm.

This has manifested in many forms. T.I. recorded a song with him directly challenging Mr. West’s embrace of President Trump, including wearing a Make America Great Again hat. The radio personality Ebro Darden pushed back forcefully against Mr. West’s support of the black conservative pundit Candace Owens. On “TMZ Live,” Van Lathan, one of TMZ’s producers, berated Mr. West full-throatedly for his recent behavior, including his statement on the show that slavery was “a choice.”

[What Kanye West said about slavery, Barack Obama and mental health.]

These are behaviors, statements and sentiments that potentially pose the largest existential threat ever to the Kanye West empire. And so what’s played out over the past two weeks is a kind of psychological tug of war, with Mr. West reinforcing his most unsettling positions while, all around him, what amounts to a collective global rescue effort for his mind and soul (and, in truth, his legacy) is playing out in real time.

The seeds of this moment are traceable to the final months of 2016, the last time Mr. West was so public, and one of the most troubled periods of his life. Within a period of weeks, his wife was robbed, his tour was canceled, and he was hospitalized. On “TMZ,” he said that during those months, he developed an addiction to prescription opioids.

That year concluded with his Trump Tower meeting with the President-elect, a vexing public position for someone who’d always agitated on behalf of the dispossessed.



Kanye West Likened Slavery to a Choice. History Says Otherwise.

In perhaps his most shocking statement to date, the rap superstar Kanye West said 400 years of slavery sounded “like a choice.” But history tells a different story.

“There is Kanye West.” “I don’t know if he wanted this type of attention.” “He’s at the center of a hashtag.” Kanye West made what might have been his most controversial statement to date during an interview with TMZ. “When you hear about slavery for 400 years — for 400 years? That sounds like a choice.” But historians reject this argument. Here’s why. Kanye’s idea is rooted in misconceptions about slaves being complacent. It also ignores the history of slave resistance. “The enslaved Africans resisted persistently in a number of different ways. Whether not working as hard as they could to something as widespread as a slave revolt. And so the biggest misunderstanding of slavery is this dominant idea, during slavery and after slavery, of the docile enslaved African.” And while he has tried to portray his latest comment as revolutionary free thought — “Do you feel that I’m being free and I’m thinking free?” — far from being new or revolutionary, the idea that slaves were complicit in keeping up with slavery is age old. Prof. Kendi: “The ideas that he is sharing are actually quite old. There was a very prominent post-slavery theory that black people were not resisting enslavement because they recognized that enslavement was better for them. That really lasted, even among scholars who wrote about slavery, well into the 1940s and 1950s.” By repeating the narrative that enslaved people were docile Kanye works to blame the oppressed for what happened to them. It puts all the responsibility on the individual and ignores systemic inequality. Today, the conservative ideology of individualism and “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” follows a similar pattern. “People want to call it systemic racism. No!” “It wasn’t what they were doing to me, it’s what I wasn’t doing.” “You do not have to sit around and wait for somebody else to do things for you.” Prof. Kendi: “According to this body of thought racial disparities exist and persist because black people haven’t taken personal responsibility for their lives, because there’s something wrong with them, because they’re enslaved to the welfare state, and they refuse to resist in the way they refuse to resist to the slaveholder.” This thinking allows Kanye to claim his own success. But by using his platform to share historically inaccurate information, he makes people believe that things in the past would have played out differently had they been there. It glosses over the real violence and suffering of slavery, and it muddles accountability.

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In perhaps his most shocking statement to date, the rap superstar Kanye West said 400 years of slavery sounded “like a choice.” But history tells a different story.CreditCredit...Chad Batka for The New York Times

But in Mr. Trump, Mr. West recognizes himself: a natural disrupter; a person so secure in his gifts that he doesn’t trouble himself with facts (or much believe in them); someone who sees generating passionate dissent as a sign of success, not as an indicator of a shaky premise. “I can tell you that when he was running, it’s like I felt something,” Mr. West told Charlamagne Tha God in an interview posted Tuesday. “The fact that he won proves something. It proves that anything is possible in America.”

But that kinship mistakes cynicism for earnestness, volume for accuracy, popularity for morality. Not all disruption is the same.

In two interviews released Tuesday, with Charlamagne and “TMZ,” Mr. West emphasized the importance of “free thought” and “free love,” trying to contextualize his acceptance of Mr. Trump as part of a broader philosophy.

But what really emerged throughout the day were other, more vulnerable notions: “unsettled pain” and “HSP,” which stands for highly sensitive person, a term he returned to several times with Charlamagne. Mr. West was defiant in defending his positions, but he also presented as someone fragile and in need of protection.

The interviews offered competing versions of lucidity. The conversation with Charlamagne, filmed two weeks ago, was an extended sit-down that showed Mr. West at his most reflective. He began by addressing the difficulties of 2016, including how his music failed to thrive on the radio. He spoke about feeling wounded by two elder figures, Jay-Z and Barack Obama, who he said had let him down.

The Charlamagne interview was visually tempered, filmed largely in a white room with a later part filmed out in nature, as the sun was setting, draping the pair in darkness. The overall effect was calm, earthen, soothing.

By contrast, the “TMZ” appearance was jolting, with Mr. West — unconcerned with camera angles, directing his conversation in multiple directions — smearing his reality atop the highly structured show’s foundation. In a way, it served as evidence of his argument — his free thought too liquid for the rigidity of the show. It was a kind of thrilling fourth-wall breaking, the physical manifestation of Mr. West’s trying to operate in an alternate reality of his making.

Time and again, he referred to our society, our world, as a “simulation.” Mr. Lathan pushed back vehemently: “The life that I live is as a real person, an actual person,” he said.

Mr. West contended that the artist’s responsibility is only to himself, not to any greater ideology or other people. One of the most dispiriting moments of his “TMZ” appearance came as Ms. Owens was being given room to espouse her controversial views on police violence and the Black Lives Matter movement. Mr. West sat next to her, head down, fiddling with his phone, seemingly uninterested in the minutiae. (He woke up when Ms. Owens insulted Chrissy Teigen, John Legend’s wife and a close friend, interrupting with, “I appreciate your free thought, but …”)

It showed him as a vessel, not an agent, and also less interested when not the center of attention. This isn’t free thought so much a disengagement from thought. (Mr. West is planning to release an album in June, he has said — perhaps it is titled “Gotta Hear Both Sides.”)

This passivity parallels what’s been happening on his Twitter feed, where he has been posting elementary misreadings of American political history, screengrabbing text conversations that rebut the inaccuracies. Watching this play out in real time recalled reports about the early days of the Trump presidency, when competing factions would sneak provocative articles onto his desk in hopes of swaying his opinion and triggering his pugilist instincts.

Seeing Mr. West treated like a pinball, or a carrier pigeon, is uncomfortable. At one point during the “TMZ” conversation, when he was speaking about the importance of class (as opposed to race), Ms. Owens watched him and smiled, like a teacher enamored of a protégé.

Mr. West’s recent commentary, from the absurd notions about slavery to what feels like parroting other people’s talking points (“Obama was the opioid to our pain — he pacified us”), has left fans to parse what difference if any there is between aligning with hateful ideology and merely speaking without much forethought (or sometimes post-thought). In Mr. West’s telling, these provocations demonstrate a willingness to think and say something that others wouldn’t dare. As ever, he finds glee in believing he knows, and can say, a thing no one else does.

But for Mr. West, that untethered glee is jumbled up with untethered hurt. Earlier on Tuesday, he posted on Twitter, “We need to have open discussions and ideas on unsettled pain.” Mr. West has always been an artist who deals with pain in primal fashion. It’s not a coincidence that, in the middle of his “TMZ” performance, he announced, “This is the most confident I’ve been since my mom passed.” (Donda West died in 2007, a day after undergoing multiple plastic surgery procedures. On Twitter, Mr. West announced that his forthcoming album cover would be a photo of the surgeon who performed those surgeries.)

Is this the manifestation of love or something more sinister? Only Mr. West knows. Though his methods may undo him, he is striving to bring people into conversation on terms of his own comfort.

At the end of Tuesday, he posted a photo on Twitter of several people seated around a table with the caption “energy meeting. Beings from all different backgrounds.” And he showed Charlamagne a 300-acre plot of land he bought with plans to build a community on it, a place where another reality might supplant the one he’s currently railing against. A place where he is the truth and also the power. A place into which he might disappear, by choice or otherwise.

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